MENSAJES PREVIOS A LA RECREACIÓN DEL VUELO
PROMOVIDO POR NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC EN 2004

PARTE 2

MENSAJES DE ISHAM RANDOLPH REPRESENTANTE
DE NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC EN MÉXICO

Asunto:           de national geographic
  Fecha:           Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:51:33 -0700 (PDT)
     De:           Isham Randolph <xxxxxxx@xxx.com>
       A:           alfafox@prodigy.net.mx

Estimado Alejandro,

Un gusto de hablar con usted por telefono. Voy revisando un
poco un email que le iba a mandar cuando usted me habló.

Tenemos algunas preguntas acerca de la recreación que
queremos hacer con las luces de Carmen.

1.  Hablé con las fuerzas aereas no nos van a permitir
usar su avion y equipo para recrear el acontecimiento.
 Con lo menos dinero posible, qué avion similar
podemos rentar/usar para recrear el evento?  Ya me
dijo usted que estos equipos de infraroja están atadas
a la panza de los aviones.  Si decidimos que la camara
sony con nightvision no es suficiente, hay otros
equipos infrarojos que conoce usted?

-favor de pasarme la info de tu cuate piloto que tiene
los contactos en Villahermosa.  Para que yo pueda
averiguar acerca de los aviones mientres que usted
esté ocupado trabajando.

2.  A Aeromexico le interesa participar cómo
patrocinador de los vuelos de recreación?  Con quién
debemos de hablar acerca de esto?

3.  Qué tan cerca podemos volar en el día o en la
noche de las flamas de los pozos para sacar imagenes
con cámaras regulares?

3.  Tiene usted una copia de las imagenes o sabe dónde
la puedo conseguir (supuestamente las Fuerzas Aereas
dieron su unica copia a Jaime Maussan)?   De este
punto, ya hablamos.   De download el clip de internet
está bien, pero para el final vamos a necesitar un
clip de calidad dvd o vhs para el programa.   Nos prestas
tu copia para copiar?  Además quién tiene los derechos
de la imagen o es patrimonio nacional (o sea, libre)?

4.  Está dispuesto de participar en el programa, dar
entrevistas, tal vez acompa?arnos en la recreación?

gracias por todo,

Isham Randolph  (datos abajo)

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Asunto:           otra pregunta
  Fecha:           Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:53:49 -0700 (PDT)
     De:           Isham Randolph <ixxxxxxxxxxh@yahoo.com>
       A:           alfafox@prodigy.net.mx

Usted tiene algunos contactos con la gente que vió los
ovnis durante el eclipse en '91?

Isham

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Asunto:           ultima pregunta
  Fecha:           Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:23:53 -0700 (PDT)
     De:           Isham Randolph <xxxxxxx@xxx.com>
       A:           alfafox@prodigy.net.mx

Usted tiene contacto con la tripulación?  O me puede
poner en contacto con la tripulación?

Qué tan difícil sería sacar permiso de hablar con
ellos?

gracias de nuevo,

Isham

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Asunto:           horarios
  Fecha:           Fri, 01 Oct 2004 07:32:38 -0700 (PDT)
     De:           Isham Randolph <xxxxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com>
       A:           alfafox@prodigy.net.mx
     CC:           dxxxxx@xxxxx

Alejandro,

I know you mentioned this to me but please tell me
again:

How does your schedule work?  Do you work a week and
rest a week?  I know you are free from the 6th to the
14th of October but what does your schedule look like
AFTER the 14th?

best,

Isham

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Asunto:           as per our phone call
  Fecha:           Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:29:20 -0700 (PDT)
     De:           Isham Randolph <xxxxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.com>
       A:           alfafox@prodigy.net.mx
     CC:           dxxxx@xxxxxx

Hi Alejandro,

It was good to speak to you again.

Here are a couple things that we talked about and
others that have occured to me.

1.  I know you don't have a lot of respect for Ing. David
Triay Lucatero from CAFE but please pass on any
contact information that you have for him.

Furthermore,  if there are other organizations besides
yours that you do hold in high esteem, please pass
along their names and contact information.

We are particularly interested in groups that are
investigating ufo landings and checking the soil
around those landings for radioactivity and other
signs

2.  We are very interested in getting contact information
on the Air Force group that saw the ufos.  We need to
know how many people were on the plane but more
importantly, we want to meet with them.  Contact
information is very important.  Please talk to your
friend in the Air Force to see if he can get their
information.

3.  Please pass along the website/email of Jim
Wescott, former fleer engineer.

Thanks,

Isham

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Asunto:           protected zone
  Fecha:           Thu, 21 Oct 2004 08:13:59 -0700 (PDT)
     De:           Isham Randolph <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com>
       A:           dkemp@xxxxxx, Alejandro Franz <alfafox@prodigy.net.mx>

Hi Dana and Alex,

The attach shows the coordinates for the protected and
restricted no fly areas.

I was hoping that you would be able to make some
sense of them.  I get the impression that they are
areas between 3 to 12 miles of distance from each
of the platforms.

Dana,  the navy seems to think that a fly by is
possible but wants me to give, in writing,  the
coordinates or a general idea of the route that we
want to fly.  This would be both for the recreation if
it turns out that the infrared isn't powerful enough
to fly the exact air force route and the fly by flight
to get platform shots.

Still no word from Helivan about the prices.
According to the asst that I spoke to this morning,
his boss has the quotes but is in a meeting right now
and won't be able to get them to us until noon or 1pm.
 I expressed our urgency in all this and hoped that
the asst might be able to get ahold of the quotes and
pass them to me beforehand.  Hoping hoping.

Isham

Note: forwarded message attached.

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 Asunto:           se envia informacion solicitada
  Fecha:           Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:48:42 -0500
     De:           Unidad de Comunicación Social <xxxxxxxxx@semar.gob.mx>
       A:           <xxxxxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com>
 

Estimado Sr. Isham Randolph
Le envío un coordial saludo y, asi mismo, le hago llegar la información
que hace unos minutos solicitó a esta institución.

Atte: Tte de Corb. SAIN. LCC
F...... Martinez S.....

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Asunto:           Re: protected zone
  Fecha:           Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:52:37 -0700 (PDT)
     De:           Isham Randolph <xxxxxxxxxxx@xxx.com>
       A:           "Cap. Alejandro Franz" <alfafox@prodigy.net.mx>
     CC:         dkemp@xxxxx, "Cap. Alejandro Franz" <alfafox@prodigy.net.mx>,
                    Kurt Franz <xxxxxxxxr@hotmail.com>

Alex,

Thanks for the diagrams.  One question:  I am trying
to understand the scale of the diagrams.   Are those
miles, kms, nautical miles?  More or less, how large
is the radius of the protected zone?

Thanks for the semar contact.  I think it will come in
handy.

Isham

--- "Cap. Alejandro Franz" <alfafox@prodigy.net.mx>

wrote:

>
> Isham Randolph wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dana and Alex,
>
> Hi Dana and Isham.
>
> One important thing I hope will help.
>
> If you are dealing with the Mexican Navy (semar.gob.mx)
> Tell them I am brother of Engineer Rodolfo Franz Navarrete
> He is now retired but was in a high rank in the government
> 18 years ago and has a good reputation. Insist to talk with
> high rank officers. I hope that could help to get clearances.
>
> > The attach shows the coordinates for the protected and
> > restricted no fly areas. I was hoping that you would be
> > able to make some sense of them.  I get the impression
> > that they are areas between 3 to 12 miles of distance
> > from each of the platforms.
> >
>
> Thank you Isham.
>
> Here you can see maps with the oil rigs restricted area.
>
> http://www.alcione.org/FAM/carmen_chart1.jpg
> http://www.alcione.org/FAM/carmen3.jpg
>
> > Dana,  the navy seems to think that a fly by is
> > possible but wants me to give, in writing,  the
> > coordinates or a general idea of the route that we
> > want to fly.  This would be both for the recreation if
> > it turns out that the infrared isn't powerful enough
> > to fly the exact air force route and the fly by flight
> > to get platform shots.
>
> See the video I took from 100 Miles away with my
> SONY handicam with nightshot. The problem could be
> that as I know the Flir P60 Thermocam has no
> ZOOMING.
>
> FLIR thermaCAM P60 reviews:
> http://www.engineeringtalk.com/news/fli/fli131.html
>
http://www.flirthermography.com/cameras/infrared_camera_complete/1016/
>
> VIDEO I took on oct 20, 2004:
> http://www.alcione.org/FAM/MOV01828.MPG
>
> The route we want to fly I guess is the original
> C26A
> track here are the coordinates in case they ask you
> for them.
>
> 16:42:22  N18 deg 03.24 min   W90 deg 56.73 min
> 16:43:16  N18 deg 05.38 min   W90 deg 58.30 min
> 16:45:00  N18 deg 08.51 min   W91 deg 03.36 min
> 16:47:08  N18 deg 12.30 min   W91 deg 09.58 min
> 16:48:25  N18 deg 14.57 min   W91 deg 13.17 min
> 16:48:45  N18 deg 15.14 min   W91 deg 14.12 min
> 16:48:51  N18 deg 15.23 min   W91 deg 14.52 min
> 16:49:10  N18 deg 15.84 min   W91 deg 15.31 min
> 16:51:24  N18 deg 19.80 min   W91 deg 21.74 min
> 16:52:37  N18 deg 22.64 min   W91 deg 22.43 min
> 16:53:00  N18 deg 22.73 min   W91 deg 21.74 min
> 16:53:04  N18 deg 22.73 min  W91 deg 21.43 min
> 16:53:18  N18 deg 22.68 min  W91 deg 20.75 min
> 16:56:18  N18 deg 22.97 min  W91 deg 11.52 min
> 16:56:28  N18 deg 23.05 min  W91 deg 10.99 min
>
> ------------  more to be included here
> ----------------
>
> 17:03:37  N18 deg 26.47 min  W90 deg 46.51 min
> 17:03:45  N18 deg 26.52 min  W90 deg 46.27 min
> 17:03:57  N18 deg 26.64 min  W90 deg 45.44 min
> 17:06:25  N18 deg 27.96 min  W90 deg 37.24 min
> 17:07:17  N18 deg 28.41 min  W90 deg 34.15 min
> 17:15:18  N18 deg 32.04 min  W90 deg 06.43 min
> 17:15:24  N18 deg 32.12 min  W90 deg 06.14 min
>
> Maybe we are lucky!!
>
> WEATHER FORECAST
>
> CIUDAD DEL CARMEN
>
> Wednesday Oct-27th
> Sunny
> High 91°F
> Precip 10%
> Wind: E 12 mph
> Max. Humidity: 70%
> UV Index: 10 Very High
> Sunrise: 6:05 AM Local Time
> Sunset:  5:37 PM Local Time
>
> Thursday Oct-28th
> Partly Cloudy
> High 91°F
> Precip 20%
> Wind: E 12 mph
> Max. Humidity: 71%
> UV Index: 10 Very High
> Sunrise: 6:05 AM Local Time
> Sunset:  5:37 PM Local Time
>
> Source:
>
http://www.weather.com/activities/travel/businesstraveler/weather/
tenday-details.html?locid=MXCE0009&dayNum=5
>
> >Still no word from Helivan about the prices.
> >According to the asst that I spoke to this
> >morning, his boss has the quotes but is in a meeting right
> >now and won't be able to get them to us until noon or
> >1pm.  I expressed our urgency in all this and hoped
> >that the asst might be able to get ahold of the quotes
> >and pass them to me beforehand.  Hoping hoping.
> >
> > Isham
>
> Best regards,
>
> Alejandro Franz
>
> > Note: forwarded message attached.
> >
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> >
> > Subject: se envia informacion solicitada
> > Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:48:42 -0500
> > From: Unidad de Comunicación Social
> <xxxxxx@semar.gob.mx>
> > To: <xxxxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com>
>
> > Estimado Sr. Isham Randolph
> > Le envío un coordial saludo y, asi mismo, le hago
> > llegar la información que hace unos minutos solicitó
> > a esta institución.
> > Atte: Tte de Corb. SAIN. LCC
> > Felix Martinez Sanabria
> >
> >     Name: CAMPECHE.PDF
> >    CAMPECHE.PDF    Type: Acrobat (application/pdf)
> >                Encoding: base64
>

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