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MENSAJES PREVIOS A LA RECREACIÓN DEL VUELO
PROMOVIDO POR NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC EN 2004

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FIRST MESSAGE- PRIMER MENSAJE DE DANA KEMP

Subject:       National Geographic Television project
     Date:      Thu, 23 Sep 2004 15:31:15 -0400
    From:      dxxx@NGS.ORG
           To:   director@alcione.org

Dear Mr. Franz,

My name is Dana Kemp and I am a Coordinating Producer with National
Geographic Television.  I sent an email to info@alcione.org as well (I
pasted this email below).   What my email doesn't expand upon is that we
are taking a somewhat hard look at ufo evidence, much like you do.  We
would like to include some misconceived examples of ufo sightings, like the
Bay of Campeche oil well sighting.   I just spoke with Robert Sheaffer, who
wrote the article in the Skeptical Inquirer about the Bay of Campeche oil
well flames.     We are very interested in including this as part of our
documentary on ufos.   Our goal is to recreate the event, in an airplane,
with as accurate an infrared system as possible to show how is can be
misconstrued as a ufo.      I would love to start a correspondence with you
on this and get your input in this project, if you are willing.
We are also interested in your thoughts on the July 1991 mass ufo sighting.

I look forward to hearing from you.   I do appreciate it.

Regards,

Dana Kemp

Coordinating Producer
National Geographic Television and Film
1145 17th Street NW
Washington DC 20036
202/862-5287 phone
202/429-5222 fax


SECOND MESSAGE- SEGUNDO MENSAJE DE DANA KEMP

Subject:       National Geographic Television project
     Date:      Thu, 25 Sep 2004 14:30
    From:      dxxxxx@NGS.ORG
           To:   director@alcione.org
To Whom it May Concern:

My name is Dana Kemp and I am a Coordinating Producer for National
Geographic Television.    We are currently producing a yet-to-be-titled
National Geographic Channel series about all things paranormal.  Each show
deals with a particular unexplained phenomenon, such as ghosts, bigfoot,
and ufos.   We will examine our topics from both a scientific and mystical
standpoint, and give people involved in researching the phenomenon their
due to explain their experiences, beliefs, and evidence.

I am contacting you because we are beginning to conduct story research for
our show on ufos and are very interested in coming to Mexico for our
filming.    We are trying the determine what sort of ufo research is
currently being done in your country and what your group, ALCIONE, is
doing.   If you wish, I would be delighted to begin a correspondence either
via email or telephone, whichever is most convenient for you.

I thank you in advance for your kind response.

Regards,

Dana Kemp

Coordinating Producer
National Geographic Television and Film
1145 17th Street NW
Washington DC 20036
202/862-5287 phone
202/429-5222 fax


THIRD MESSAGE - TERCER MENSAJE DANA KEMP

Subject:           Re: National Geographic Television project
       Date:        Sun, 26 Sep 2004 10:29:21 -0400
      From:         dxxxxx@NGS.ORG
           To:        "Cap. Alejandro Franz" <alfafox@prodigy.net.mx>
          CC:          ishamrandolph@xxxxx

Dear Captain Franz,

Thank you for your thoughtful email.  First of all,  I will be happy to explain
the angle of our show.   The series is 10 parts - focusing on many different
topics (many of which are not decided yet). This is the 4th show in
production - and it is of course about ufos. The executives here wanted
a series that was different from the others - one that explores our topics fairly,
and one that doesn't sensationalize or "hype" paranormal things, and say,
"oh look, every case is real" - like some people and shows do. We liked the
fact that you had a more objective eye than other ufologists in your country.

Our goal is to make a show that gives BOTH sides of the coin - and show
that some of it can be explained, as with the Campeche sighting, but there
is also some serious work going on in the ufology field as well.  (We are
trying to find research that is currently being done in Mexico to include
also... are you involved in anything like this at the moment?  Do you happen
to know Victor Quesada?)  As National Geographic, we have to show both
sides of the coin - the serious research, as well as the false alarms. I hope
that this is in line with your thinking. The series producer was extremely
interested in your website and your philosophy, so I think it could be a
good match.

I think that what we want to do could be very challenging.  Since you are
a pilot, we thought you might give good insight on our goals. I think we can
accomplish what we want in one or two days.  I am assuming we would be
work out of Carmen. Here is a list of our objectives (next week we are
hiring a local person to help us start arranging things.  His name is Isham
Randolph, and I will copy him on this message):

1.  Interview you about your work, your experiences and this matter.

2.  Obtain permission to air the infrared footage.  (I hope that the
    Mexican Air Force still owns this and that they have not given full
    rights to Jaime Maussan)

3.  Take a flight that simulates the flight that the plane took, with infrared
     capability to recreate the event.  I think this might be difficult to duplicate,
     and I really doubt the Mexican Army will cooperate in taking us in one
     of their craft so that we get it perfectly identical.  Any thoughts?

4.  Interview the crew of the plane.   Am I correct that there were three
     aboard?  The pilot, co-pilot and infrared operator?

5.  Get aerial shots of the Campeche oil rigs (can they be seen by land?)

This is all I can think of for now.  I will look forward to your response.
Perhaps a little later this week we can arrange a phone call as well?
I would like to include Isham Randolph on that call, since he will be
responsible for helping us arrange things.   So you know, we are hoping
to come to Mexico sometime during the week of October 11.

Best Regards,

Dana

Dana Kemp
Coordinating Producer
National Geographic Television and Film
1145 17th Street NW
Washington DC 20036
202/862-5287


MESSSAGE TO  - MENSAJE A  DANA KEMP

 From:  "Cap. Alejandro   Franz"   <alfafox@prodigy.net.mx>
     To:    Dana Kemp <dxxxxx@NGS.ORG>
    cc:    <director@alcione.org>
 Date:    09/25/2004 12:11
Subject   Re: National Geographic Television project

Dana Kemp wrote:

> Dear Mr. Franz,

Dear Dana Kemp,

> My name is Dana Kemp and I am a Coordinating Producer with National
> Geographic Television.
> I sent an email to info@alcione.org as well (I pasted this email below).

I am sorry but the address <info@alcione.org> is not working anymore.

> What my email doesn't expand upon is that we are taking a somewhat
> hard look at ufo evidence, much like you do.
> We would like to include some misconceived examples of ufo sightings,
> like the Bay of Campeche oil well sighting. I just spoke with Robert
> Sheaffer, who wrote the article in the Skeptical Inquirer about the
> Bay of Campeche oil well flames. We are very interested in including
> this as part of our documentary on ufos.

I will be very glad to help as much as I can.

> Our goal is to recreate the event, in an airplane, with as accurate
> an infrared system as possible to show how is can be misconstrued as
> a ufo.

It is very important to have National Geographic Television
interested in paranormal or unexplained phenomenon. I hope this
recreation is going to be serious and educative and not a skeptical
project. I have to let you know I am a UFO end ET believer and have
had some sightings and paranormal experiences. My skepticism
resides as part of an investigator's rule and as result of that I exposed
some UFO hoaxes and hoaxers. I hope you understand that.

> I would love to start a correspondence with you on this and get your
> input in this project, if you are willing.

Yes I am willing to participate but I would like to know what the
project is and all the data you can give me so I can arrange my flight
schedule.

> We are also interested in your thoughts on the July 1991 mass ufo
sighting.

I'll be glad to explain my thoughts and experiences on that.

> I look forward to hearing from you. I do appreciate it.

I appreciate your interest in me and my work hopping to hear from you soon.

Kind regards,

Capt. Alejandro Franz
director@alcione.org
52-2222-852571
Puebla Mexico
72760

> Regards,
>
> Dana Kemp
>
> Coordinating Producer
> National Geographic Television and Film
> 1145 17th Street NW
> Washington DC 20036
> 202/862-5287 phone
> 202/429-5222 fax


FOURTH MESSAGE - CUARTO MENSAJE DE DANA KEMP

Subject:       Fw: hello again
       Date:     Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:56:46 -0400
      From:     dxxxxx@NGS.ORG
           To:    director@alcione.org, alfafox@prodigy.net.mx
          CC:    ishamrandolph@xxxxxx

Hi Alejandro.

Thank you so much for our conversation earlier today.  Again, I am looking
forward to our collaboration and hope that this project is a success.
Thank you for all of your help so far.

I am disappointed that I cannot seem to get the right infrared camera into
Mexico.  They explained to me that this technology is so "sensitive" and
"important" that there are many hoops to jump through in terms of getting
it into Mexico... they say that it would take weeks to get the correct import
documents from the State Department in place.   So, we are forced to look
at less classified systems.

I spoke with Ben in Minneapolis at www.infraredsolutions.com.  He looked
at your website, with us on the phone, and spoke with his manager also.
They both agreed that we could duplicate the images on your website,
but I believe he means from closer in.   It is most important for us to match
the images - if we need to compromise on distance from the oil wells, we are
OK with that.  But, that brings up the question of the 40 mile radius that we
must remain away from the oil wells.   I will ask Isham call PEMEX as soon
as possible to try and see if we can get any closer from the air (maybe in a
helicopter) and stand on the platforms themselves.

Here is the infrared system we are looking into getting:

http://www.ashtead-technology.com/us/NonDestructive/Content/004_S.html

I think the infrared part could be tricky.  I look forward to hearing your
thoughts on this.  Also, I look forward to hearing your thoughts on which
airplane to use and the PEMEX contact information.

Best,

Dana

Dana Kemp
Coordinating Producer
National Geographic Television and Film
1145 17th Street NW
Washington DC 20036
202/862-5287


FIFTH MESSAGE - QUINTO MENSAJE DE DANA KEMP

Asunto:          Re: Fw: hello again
  Fecha:          Sat, 16 Oct 2004 08:43:03 -0400
     De:          dxxxxx@NGS.ORG
       A:          "Cap. Alejandro Franz" <alfafox@prodigy.net.mx>
     CC:          ishamrandolph@xxxxxxx

Excuse me Alejandro.

I must have misunderstood.

I will have Isham find us a plane and lock it.

>From which airport are you coming to us from?

 We can purchase you a plane ticket to where we are filming.

Thanks,

Dana

Dana Kemp
Coordinating Producer
National Geographic Television and Film
1145 17th Street NW
Washington DC 20036
202/862-5287


MESSAGE - MENSAJE  A DANA KEMP

 "Cap. Alejandro Franz"  <alfafox@prodigy. net.mx>
  To   dxxxxx@NGS.ORG
 cc   "Cap. Alejandro Franz"  <alfafox@prodigy.net.mx>
   10/16/2004 03:41
Re: Fw: hello again
 

Dana Kemp wrote:

> Hello Alejandro,

 Hello Dana,

> I have a couple of notes to run by you.
>
> Can we choose a helicopter for our recreation?

No, recreation is supposed to be done in an airplane.
Choppers don't fly very high.

> I understand that to be completely accurate, we need to get to
> 11,500 feet.  But, our cameraman says that he thinks there will
> be trouble getting the shot from an airplane.

Believe me, I took pictures form a 120 miles distance
with a SONY handycam.

See images:
http://www.alcione.org/FAM/IMAGES/

video:
http://www.alcione.org/CANTARELL_climb.wmv

>  A chopper with the door open is much easier for aerials...
>  we can be lower, as long as we can get the same image.

This is not a sight seen tour, it is supposed to be a
recreation. Same altitude, same path, infrared video camera.

> Let me know if you think a chopper is OK or if we must go with
> an airplane.  Also, do you have any idea of costs?

No, chopper is not a good idea, to make your project as much
closer to the original it must be done as closer to reality.

I don't have any idea of the costs.

> We need to lock the airplane or helicopter immediately,
> as there are some insurance issues that we need to deal with.

I wish I could help but that's not my area.

> Second, we need to find a military plane to do recreations on the ground
> in.  We want to bring a few actors in military uniform in and film them
> "acting" like they are flying and "acting" like they see the "ufos".

No way the military are going to cooperate, they already have been
exposed and won't do that again.

> Do you know of any such plane or a pilot friend in Villahermosa who
> can help us figure this out?

No Dana, I don't have any friend who can help. Myabe I can get
a cessna 210 but I am not sure, I have to call a friend in Merida.

Best regards

Alejandro.



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Cap. Alejandro Franz
director@alcione.org
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